www.winkde.org outage

Discussion:

Ralf Habacker

2013-03-19 00:49:39 UTC

Hi all,

as some people already noticed, the www.winkde.org server is currently
broken because of a hardware failure.

Until the server is up, the following workaround could be used for KDE
on Windows Software installations.

1. download the installer from
http://sourceforge.net/projects/kde-windows/files/installer/kdewin-installer-gui-0.9.9-8.exe/download

2. create a download directory and add a file named 'mirrors-remote.lst'
with the following content:
http de http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/kde

3. Start installer, unselect 'skip settings' checkbox if visible, set
the directory created in 2. as download directory.

Now you should be able to install KDE at least from ftp5.gwdg.de

Regards
Ralf

András Csányi

2013-03-19 06:45:54 UTC

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Ralf Habacker

2013-03-19 10:02:39 UTC

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Jeff Harp

2013-03-19 14:19:07 UTC

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Ralf,

Thanks for the quick response to the comment I added to KDE bug 316204
and the proposed workaround.

I'm in the eastern US and tried the installer link last night about 2
hours after receiving your reply. It was invalid. The installer
directory was visible on the SF site, but could not be accessed.
Perhaps the changes you made had not propagated through the entire SF
system yet. Being familiar with SF URL formats, I tried the following:

http://netcologne.dl.sourceforge.net/project/kde-windows/installer/kdewin-installer-gui-0.9.9-8.exe

It worked and I was able to download the 32-bit installer.

Following up on my bug comment, this new file is the same size as the
one I retrieved previously via FTP from www.winkde.org, but is not a
binary equivalent. So it does seem like the file is corrupt on the
other server(s), or those server(s) is/are corrupting the file upon
download.

I created a directory "C:\kdewin" for downloading, created the file
mirrors-remote.lst in that directory, and ran the installer. I chose
"download only". It asked for an installation directory and suggested
"C:\ProgramData\KDE" (running W7). This seemed to me like an odd place
to store executables, so I changed it to "C:\Program Files\KDE". I
chose "End User" and "MSVC" for install mode. I entered "C:\kdewin" as
the download path. The installer then displayed an error "failed to
download site list page from http://downloads.sourceforge.net/kde-windows/".

Here is the kdewin-installer.log content:

[2013-03-19 09:13:12] Debug: static\shared\downloader.cpp 189
Downloading "http://www.winkde.org/pub/kde/ports/win32/installer/" to
memory
[2013-03-19 09:13:12] Debug: static\shared\downloader.cpp 225
Downloader(0x209c508) Downloader::fetchInternal url:
"http://www.winkde.org/pub/kde/ports/win32/installer/"
[2013-03-19 09:13:12] Debug: static\shared\downloader.cpp 298
Downloader(0x209c508) Downloader::threadFinished
[2013-03-19 09:13:12] Debug: static\shared\downloader.cpp 286
Downloader::fetchInternal ret: true
[2013-03-19 09:13:12] Debug: static\shared\installerupdate.cpp 140 no
update found
[2013-03-19 09:13:12] Debug: static\shared\database.cpp 111 "perl"
"Installer\Products\0052C8C86573FFC4C8DA8E043AA6BA48" not found.
[2013-03-19 09:13:12] Debug: static\shared\database.cpp 111 "psdk-msvc"
"Installer\Products\E10DE0A981DFA754BAC98053CDBD71BB" not found.
[2013-03-19 09:13:12] Debug: static\shared\database.cpp 111
"tortoisesvn" "Installer\Products\059ABB4F0F655334D839EE46FB5F390A" not
found.
[2013-03-19 09:13:12] Debug: static\shared\database.cpp 111
"vcexpress-en-msvc"
"Installer\Products\9BA4F6BA58CA200489926BEE5AA53E5A" not found.
[2013-03-19 09:13:12] Debug: static\shared\database.cpp 111 "vcredist"
"Installer\Products\b25099274a207264182f8181add555d0" not found.
[2013-03-19 09:13:12] Debug: called
[2013-03-19 09:13:17] Debug: called
[2013-03-19 09:19:47] Debug: static\shared\database.cpp 111 "perl"
"Installer\Products\0052C8C86573FFC4C8DA8E043AA6BA48" not found.
[2013-03-19 09:19:47] Debug: static\shared\database.cpp 111 "psdk-msvc"
"Installer\Products\E10DE0A981DFA754BAC98053CDBD71BB" not found.
[2013-03-19 09:19:47] Debug: static\shared\database.cpp 111
"tortoisesvn" "Installer\Products\059ABB4F0F655334D839EE46FB5F390A" not
found.
[2013-03-19 09:19:47] Debug: static\shared\database.cpp 111
"vcexpress-en-msvc"
"Installer\Products\9BA4F6BA58CA200489926BEE5AA53E5A" not found.
[2013-03-19 09:19:47] Debug: static\shared\database.cpp 111 "vcredist"
"Installer\Products\b25099274a207264182f8181add555d0" not found.
[2013-03-19 09:19:47] Debug: called
[2013-03-19 09:21:01] Debug: called
[2013-03-19 09:22:42] Debug: static\shared\globalconfig.cpp 79 Check if
a copy of the remote config file is available at
"C:/kdewin/config-remote.txt" ... not found
[2013-03-19 09:22:42] Debug: static\shared\downloader.cpp 167
Downloading "http://downloads.sourceforge.net/kde-windows/config.txt"
to "C:/kdewin/config.txt.part.Hp2412"
[2013-03-19 09:22:42] Debug: static\shared\downloader.cpp 225
Downloader(0x209c508) Downloader::fetchInternal url:
"http://downloads.sourceforge.net/kde-windows/config.txt"
[2013-03-19 09:22:43] Debug: static\shared\downloader.cpp 298
Downloader(0x209c508) Downloader::threadFinished
[2013-03-19 09:22:43] Debug: static\shared\downloader.cpp 286
Downloader::fetchInternal ret: true
[2013-03-19 09:22:43] Debug: static\shared\globalconfig.cpp 88 download
remote config file from QUrl(
"http://downloads.sourceforge.net/kde-windows/config.txt" ) to
"C:/kdewin/config.txt" ... okay
[2013-03-19 09:22:43] Debug: static\shared\globalconfig.cpp 96 Check if
a local config file is available at "C:/kdewin/config-local.txt" ... not
found
[2013-03-19 09:22:43] Debug: static\shared\globalconfig.cpp 101 using
config file(s) ("C:/kdewin/config.txt")
[2013-03-19 09:22:43] Debug: static\shared\globalconfig.cpp 219
QDateTime("Fri Sep 2 00:00:00 2011")
[2013-03-19 09:22:43] Warning: static\shared\globalconfig.cpp 562
unknown tag in config file ("@hash-typ", "md5")
[2013-03-19 09:22:43] Debug: static\shared\installerengine.cpp 293
globalconfig has timestamp "2011-09-02 00:00:00"
[2013-03-19 09:22:43] Debug: static\shared\installerengine.cpp 322
download package file list for site: "all" from QUrl(
"http://downloads.sourceforge.net/kde-windows/" )
[2013-03-19 09:22:43] Debug: static\shared\installerengine.cpp 335
QUrl( "http://downloads.sourceforge.net/kde-windows/" )
[2013-03-19 09:22:43] Debug: static\shared\downloader.cpp 189
Downloading "http://downloads.sourceforge.net/kde-windows/" to memory
[2013-03-19 09:22:43] Debug: static\shared\downloader.cpp 225
Downloader(0x209c508) Downloader::fetchInternal url:
"http://downloads.sourceforge.net/kde-windows/"
[2013-03-19 09:22:43] Debug: static\shared\downloader.cpp 298
Downloader(0x209c508) Downloader::threadFinished
[2013-03-19 09:22:43] Critical: static\shared\downloader.cpp 373 HTTP
response code said error
[2013-03-19 09:22:43] Debug: static\shared\downloader.cpp 286
Downloader::fetchInternal ret: false

Looks like prerequisite software is missing, although the installer did
not tell me that through the GUI. Also looks like the config.txt file
may have an invalid entry in it, and that the installer tried to
download another file using an invalid URL (file name is missing).

Based on what I'm seeing, I'm going to give up on this. All I wanted to
do was install the Kate text editor on Windows. I'm a developer, so the
idea of building software doesn't bother me, but in this case I'm just
an end-user who wants an installer that provides a runnable Windows
application.

Thanks again for your efforts.

Regards,
Jeff

Post by Ralf Habacker
Hi all,
as some people already noticed, the www.winkde.org server is currently
broken because of a hardware failure.
Until the server is up, the following workaround could be used for KDE
on Windows Software installations.
1. download the installer from
http://sourceforge.net/projects/kde-windows/files/installer/kdewin-installer-gui-0.9.9-8.exe/download
2. create a download directory and add a file named
http de http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/kde
3. Start installer, unselect 'skip settings' checkbox if visible, set
the directory created in 2. as download directory.
Now you should be able to install KDE at least from ftp5.gwdg.de
Regards
Ralf
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Kde-windows mailing list
https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-windows

Ralf Habacker

2013-03-19 14:56:32 UTC

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Post by Jeff Harp
Ralf,
Thanks for the quick response to the comment I added to KDE bug 316204
and the proposed workaround.
I'm in the eastern US and tried the installer link last night about 2
hours after receiving your reply. It was invalid. The installer
directory was visible on the SF site, but could not be accessed.
Perhaps the changes you made had not propagated through the entire SF
http://netcologne.dl.sourceforge.net/project/kde-windows/installer/kdewin-installer-gui-0.9.9-8.exe
It worked and I was able to download the 32-bit installer.

Thanks for this pointer, which is usefull also for others.

Post by Jeff Harp
Following up on my bug comment, this new file is the same size as the
one I retrieved previously via FTP from www.winkde.org, but is not a
binary equivalent. So it does seem like the file is corrupt on the
other server(s), or those server(s) is/are corrupting the file upon
download.

we encountered this too.

Post by Jeff Harp
I created a directory "C:\kdewin" for downloading, created the file
mirrors-remote.lst in that directory, and ran the installer. I chose
"download only". It asked for an installation directory and suggested
"C:\ProgramData\KDE" (running W7). This seemed to me like an odd place
to store executables, so I changed it to "C:\Program Files\KDE". I
chose "End User" and "MSVC" for install mode. I entered "C:\kdewin" as
the download path. The installer then displayed an error "failed to
download site list page from http://downloads.sourceforge.net/kde-windows/".

You added

http://downloads.sourceforge.net/kde-windows/"

as url in the mirrors-remote.lst, which is wrong.

Using

http://netcologne.dl.sourceforge.net/project/kde-windows/releases

works for me.

As an alternative you may leave mirrors-remote.lst empty, so that the installer do not look for mirrors on the remote locations and enter the above mentioned url in the Download Servers Settings page.

Post by Jeff Harp
Looks like prerequisite software is missing, although the installer did
not tell me that through the GUI. Also looks like the config.txt file
may have an invalid entry in it, and that the installer tried to
download another file using an invalid URL (file name is missing).
Based on what I'm seeing, I'm going to give up on this.

Please use the above mentioned url. Because og the mirror list server
failure there are no valid mirror urls available.
I'm going to find a better fallback location for this mirror list.

Post by Jeff Harp
All I wanted to
do was install the Kate text editor on Windows. I'm a developer, so the
idea of building software doesn't bother me, but in this case I'm just
an end-user who wants an installer that provides a runnable Windows
application.
Thanks again for your efforts.

Please let me know if it works for you.

Regards
Ralf

Post by Jeff Harp

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Ralf Habacker

2013-03-19 15:26:53 UTC

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<snip>
Using
http://netcologne.dl.sourceforge.net/project/kde-windows/releases
works for me.

Just noticed, that the sf mirrors do not contain recent releases. You
should use

http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/kde

or

http://download.kde.org/

as mirror url.

Regards
Ralf

Jeff Harp

2013-03-19 15:44:11 UTC

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Post by Ralf Habacker

You added
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/kde-windows/"
as url in the mirrors-remote.lst, which is wrong.
Using
http://netcologne.dl.sourceforge.net/project/kde-windows/releases
works for me.
As an alternative you may leave mirrors-remote.lst empty, so that the
installer do not look for mirrors on the remote locations and enter
the above mentioned url in the Download Servers Settings page.

Ralf,

I created the mirrors-remote.lst exactly as per your instructions. It
had a single line "http de http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/kde" with CRLF
as EOL marker. I tried changing that to
"http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/kde" and it did not work. I tried
changing it to
"http://netcologne.dl.sourceforge.net/project/kde-windows/releases " and
it did not work. I tried an empty lst file and it did not work. I also
tried all of the preceding without the CRLF EOL marker and that did not
work either. I tried moving the installer to the C:\kdewin directory
thinking maybe that would help the installer find the lst file and that
did not work. No matter what I do the installer is trying to download
from the SF site. It seems like the installer cannot find the lst file
or is ignoring it for some reason.

Also, when trying the empty lst file approach you suggested, I did not
see a "Download Servers Settings" page anywhere while running the installer.

Thanks,
Jeff

Doug

2013-03-20 02:13:11 UTC

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I have not been able to download/install any kde-for-Windows for my
Windows8 setup. One version would download, but not install, the latest
that you are talking about here will not even download.

--doug

Ralf Habacker

2013-03-21 07:47:49 UTC

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Hi all,

the KDE on Windows installer is now available through the KDE mirror
network.

To download the installer you may use the regular download links provided by

http://windows.kde.org

or directly by using the link

http://download.kde.org/stable/kdewin/installer/kdewin-installer-gui-latest.exe.mirrorlist

Have Fun
Ralf

Mogliii

2013-03-21 08:45:25 UTC

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Im getting a
"failed to download site list page from
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/kde-windows/"
and then the installer crashes. (Windows 7)

If I type that URL into a browser it resolves to
http://sourceforge.net/projects/kde-windows/files/.

Really curious about the 1.0 version!

Mogliii

Post by Ralf Habacker
Hi all,
the KDE on Windows installer is now available through the KDE mirror
network.
To download the installer you may use the regular download links provided by
http://windows.kde.org
or directly by using the link
http://download.kde.org/stable/kdewin/installer/kdewin-installer-gui-latest.exe.mirrorlist
Have Fun
Ralf
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Ralf Habacker

2013-03-21 09:10:34 UTC

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Post by Mogliii
Im getting a
"failed to download site list page from
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/kde-windows/"
and then the installer crashes. (Windows 7)

Please provide the log file

Regards
Ralf

Jeff Harp

2013-03-21 14:22:46 UTC

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Installer still not working for me either on W7 (32-bit). Attaching
log. Same problem(s) described earlier. Insists on trying to use SF site.

I'd like to review the source. Where is it?

Post by Ralf Habacker

Post by Mogliii
Im getting a
"failed to download site list page from
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/kde-windows/"
and then the installer crashes. (Windows 7)

Please provide the log file
Regards
Ralf
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https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-windows

Laszlo Papp

2013-03-21 14:23:43 UTC

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Post by Jeff Harp
I'd like to review the source. Where is it?

https://projects.kde.org/projects/kdesupport/kdewin-installer/repository

Laszlo

Ralf Habacker

2013-03-21 15:13:19 UTC

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2013-03-21 19:39:14 UTC

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Post by Mogliii
Im getting a
"failed to download site list page from
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/kde-windows/"
and then the installer crashes. (Windows 7)

the sourceforge url is a fallback. It indicates that the installer is
somehow not been able to fetch the site list page from the primary
location, which is http://download.kde.org/stable/4.8.0 when you select
"download.kde.org" as mirror, "stable 4.8.0" as release and the proxy
settings are correct and your network connection works.

Post by Mogliii
If I type that URL into a browser it resolves to
http://sourceforge.net/projects/kde-windows/files/.
Really curious about the 1.0 version!

Using sourceforge as fallback worked for several years, but in the last
month they has been proved as not been reliable enough. In fact there
url redirection seems to be broken.
This is one of the reasons why we switched over to the kde mirror
network. Because www.winkde.org is currently offline there is no working
fallback yet.

BTW: This installer has been used about 85.000 times a month in the
last 7 years, so I guess there is a solution for your problem: :-)

Regards
Ralf